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'It's just insanity': Former Defense Sec. Chuck Hagel levels criticism at Trump tariff policy

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OMAHA, Neb. (KMTV) — The annual Chuck Hagel Forum in Global Leadership at UNO hosted Admiral John Kirby, a former, Pentagon press secretary, in a conversation with Sec. Hagel.

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Admiral John Kirby criticizes the Trump administration treatment of allies at UNO

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Sec. Chuck Hagel: “I’ve never been as concerned about the future of our country and the world as I am today and I’m a hopeful guy.”

Former U.S. Senator and Sec. of Defense Chuck Hagel is at UNO — his alma mater — to host his global leadership forum.

I’m neighborhood reporter Katrina Markel and I’m here because, over the last month, I’ve spoken to Sec. Hagel a couple of times, and this is a chance to catch up with him in person.

Professor Michelle Black: “What are both of your thoughts initiated by the United States on other nations including some of our NATO allies?”

Hagel and his guest, former pentagon spokesman Admiral John Kirby answered questions from UNO students Wednesday evening. Including one about tariffs.

“Anybody want to answer that?” joked the former senator.

Hagel, a Republican who worked for Democrats and Republicans, was sharply critical of Trump administration policies.

“I mean it’s just insanity,” Hagels said. “And almost any economist will tell you that it doesn’t do any good for your country. It’s gonna lead to recession. It’s gonna lead to inflation. It’s going to lead to, probably a world recession. So, you think that helps the security of the world? Do you think that doesn’t help Putin and doesn’t help the Chinese?”

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Admiral John Kirby headlined the annual Chuck Hagel Forum in Global Leadership Wednesday night at UNO. Kirby was the Pentagon spokesman when Hagel was secretary of defense.

Both men answered questions from UNO students. Kirby emphasized the power in having allies and argued that supporting Ukraine is important for American security.

“Imagine how much more expensive that’s going to be. Not just in treasure but in blood if you just let Putin do what he wants,” Kirby said. “Then, he’s right up against the border with NATO. And you think it costs a lot to support Ukraine now, think about how much more it’s going to cost when American troops are right there facing Russian troops on the other side.”

Both men had strong criticism of the Trump Administration’s foreign policy, including the recent imposition of tariffs on U.S. Allies.

It’s the seventh year the former Nebraska Senator and UNO grad has hosted this event.